>>guest: the media says be specific, be specific, about law are cutting and what loopholes to get rid of, and the one program he mentioned there has been a week, now, of attention on this program. it is a very good example, neil, of why it is so hard to cut the federal budget. when you talk about single programs, gingrich learned this less monday in 1995 when i worked for him and we tried to cut the programs out, you get every constituency that cares about the programs and theys every lobbying dollar to save the programs. mitt romney is saying if we cannot get rid of this what can we get rid of? >>neil: do you think the folks at "sesame street" said we don't like being part of an ad campaign, come on, just chill. >>guest: i don't know. i do think, i go back to this point, when you have deficits as large as we have right now, it is time to start pruning. maybe we don't have to eliminate corporation for public broadcasting but we can cut the program and i think we should cut programs 20 percent or 30 percent across the board and bring in experts to show how to cut program but still prov